Keep It or Cut It: The Podcast Editing Dilemma
Deciding what to keep and what to cut in podcast editing can seem hard, but with a little insight it becomes easy. So fear not, because we dig into this conundrum with all the sarcasm and irony you can handle.
First, we chat about the importance of knowing your audience. Seriously, if your guest starts rambling off nonsensical answers that have nothing to do with the question, it’s a clear sign that something’s gotta give. It's simple: keep the stuff that brings value, even if it’s wrapped in a bizarre package.
Next, we tackle the classic blunder of hosts repeating the answers. Like, thanks for the recap, but I think we caught that the first time, champ. I mean, how many times do we need to hear that answer? It's not rocket science.
And let’s not even get started on the audio quality – if it sounds like your guest is speaking from inside a fishbowl, it’s time for some serious editing magic. We share tips on using fancy plugins to fix that audio mess because, let’s face it, nobody wants to crank their volume just to hear someone mumble.
Finally, we wrap it all up by emphasizing that editing isn’t just about cutting the fluff; it’s about enhancing your show’s quality. Keep it engaging, make the listening experience enjoyable, and don’t be afraid to reach out to your audience for feedback. Because at the end of the day, if your podcast is boring, your listeners will hit that delete button faster than you can say ‘editing nightmare’!
Takeaways:
- Knowing your audience is step one to figuring out what to keep or cut.
- If your guest gives a weird answer like 'pepperoni' instead of a story, just cut it.
- Keep things snappy; nobody wants to listen to a podcast that's longer than it needs to be.
- Cut out the parts where guests repeat answers over and over; we heard them the first time!
- Audio quality matters; make sure people can actually understand what’s being said.
- Eliminate excessive background noise or uneven volume levels to keep listeners engaged.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:00 - Introduction to Podcast Editing
00:52 - Understanding Your Audience
03:27 - The Art of Active Listening in Interviews
05:37 - The Importance of Audio Quality in Podcasts
07:15 - Engaging Your Audience: The Key to Podcast Success
I know I'm supposed to edit my podcast, but how do I decide what to keep and what to cut?
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Speaker AI saw this post on Reddit where somebody said, hey, like, how do you edit?
Speaker AWhat do you edit, Etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker AAnd you know that the beginning of this starts with pretty much.
Speaker AI say this in about every episode.
Speaker AIt starts with knowing your audience.
Speaker ANow, there are times when you don't know your audience, so you come up with an idea of who your audience is.
Speaker ABut even if you don't know your audience, there are things that people do that you can identify.
Speaker ASo, for example, if I ask you tell me about a time when you were afraid, and your answer is, pepperoni.
Speaker AOkay, well, you've given me an answer that typically would go with, what's your favorite pizza?
Speaker ABut you've thrown it in here.
Speaker AIt doesn't.
Speaker AYou didn't answer the question.
Speaker AYou gave me an answer, but you didn't answer the question.
Speaker AAnd I hear this especially with.
Speaker ANot to paint with a super wide brush, but authors who are out promoting a book often have their kind of default answers.
Speaker AAnd you ask them a question, it's like you pulled their string and here comes the answer.
Speaker ASo if they don't answer the question, that's usually something that's going to go, but listen to the answer.
Speaker ADoes it deliver value?
Speaker ANow, if it does, even if it didn't really answer the question, if they came up with a good story, then maybe it stays.
Speaker ANow, when they're done with their answer, this drives me absolutely bonkers.
Speaker ASo you'll say, hey, what's your favorite color?
Speaker AAnd they will go, green.
Speaker AI love green.
Speaker AAnd I don't know if you know this or not, but yellow and blue, if you combine them together, make green.
Speaker AAll right, they answered the question.
Speaker AWhether or not that's valuable, that's up to you.
Speaker AAnd then the guest thinking that somehow they've talked about splitting the atom.
Speaker AThat's really hard to understand.
Speaker AWe'll go, yeah, I've heard that yellow and blue make green, and that's your favorite color.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou just repeated what they said.
Speaker AWe didn't need you to repeat the answer.
Speaker AWe got it the first time.
Speaker AAnd if we didn't, we can hit rewind.
Speaker ABut I hear that a lot.
Speaker AAnd consequently, a Show that should be 20 minutes is 40 minutes.
Speaker ABecause every time they answer a question, you repeat it back to them.
Speaker AAnd I get it if you're having a discussion with your partner.
Speaker AYeah, that's called active listening and that's great.
Speaker AThis is an active listing.
Speaker AIt's an interview.
Speaker AAnd you might even do that.
Speaker AJust cut it out, we don't need it.
Speaker ASomething I do when I interview someone is I will say something like, hey, I know you've done this before.
Speaker AIn the past you did this and then that led to this.
Speaker AAnd really when people are doing this, they think about this, yada yada yada, background, background, background.
Speaker AAnd then I will finally spit out a question.
Speaker AAnd usually again the question isn't that hard.
Speaker AI've just given them background to understand kind of the answer I'm looking for.
Speaker AI will cut the background out.
Speaker AMy audience doesn't need to hear me come up with the question.
Speaker ASo anytime you can make yourself or a guest sound better, why wouldn't you?
Speaker AAnd I get it.
Speaker AKeeping it real, man.
Speaker AI'm going to keep it real.
Speaker AOkay, well you're probably keeping it real boring.
Speaker ANow there are other things when it comes to editing.
Speaker AI have, I do a little bit of editing for other people and I'll have somebody who used a built in microphone in their laptop that makes them sound like they're in a fishbowl.
Speaker AThere is a tool from Apex, that's the name of the company.
Speaker AIt's called DX Revive.
Speaker AAnd then there's DX Revive Pro.
Speaker AI put out the $300 ouch for this plugin and it removes reverb.
Speaker AIt kind of makes them more understandable.
Speaker AIt'll add a little bass, it'll add a little treble.
Speaker AAnd the reason I put out that kind of money for that is it has saved me insane amounts of hours where people hand me really bad audio and I run it through this thing and it does slow down the export process, but it's still much faster than just trying to use all these other plugins.
Speaker AIt's a great plugin, but that's another one.
Speaker AIt has to be listenable.
Speaker AAnd I understand that there are times we have guests that don't have great microphones and things like that.
Speaker AAnd those people, I would tell them to go get a mic, I wouldn't let them on my show.
Speaker ABut that's me.
Speaker AUnless it's like an A list celebrity.
Speaker ASo keep that in mind is the fact that the actual audio quality has to be listenable.
Speaker AAnd I know sometimes you go, ah, it's just a little room noise.
Speaker AI never thought that was a big deal until I started listening to podcasts in the car.
Speaker AAnd when you add the sound of traffic and tires on the pavement, all of a sudden you have to really crank up your audio to just be able to understand them.
Speaker AAnd so that's why I always try to remove, especially when it's excessive room noise that can really hinder the listening experience.
Speaker AAnd then the other one is uneven volume levels.
Speaker ASo again, this often happens with an interview where someone is much louder than the other.
Speaker ASo the quiet person comes on, the person in the car, they crank up their volume, or if they're earbuds or whatever, great, I can hear them now.
Speaker AAnd then the person, the second person comes on who is normal and blasts their head off.
Speaker AThat is not a good listening experience.
Speaker AIf you are having your audience grab the volume knob, I'm here to tell you, if you go look at the, you know, percentage listened to on that particular episode, it will be very low because everyone I know says, the minute I gotta grab the volume knob, I'm done.
Speaker AThey reach the volume knob and then they go, wait, swipe left, delete.
Speaker AAnd so the bottom line is by knowing who your audience is, you can determine does this deliver value.
Speaker AI just read a report on podcast marketing and they said the shows that are growing, the hosts personally, as in one on one, talked with their audience and you're like, well, how do you do that?
Speaker AYou say on your podcast, hey, I'd like to do a little research and find out what you really want on the show so I can make it better.
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Speaker AAnd I've told the story before about how I did this once and thought I was sending it out to 10 people and I set it out to my entire list and ended up with literally like weeks of talks, 15 minute talks with my audience.
Speaker ANow that was a mistake.
Speaker AIt was also the best mistake I ever made because it really helped me understand who my audience is, which helps me then figure out what to keep and what to lose when I'm editing my podcast.
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