Mayim Bialik and the Double Intro Mistake
Dr. Mayim Bialik played Amy on The Big Bang Theory and was TV’s Blossom. On a recent episode of her podcast, Mayim Bialik’s Breakdown, she made one of the easiest podcasting mistakes to fix: the double intro.
Her guest was Chuck Lorre, the producer behind The Big Bang Theory, Two and a Half Men, Young Sheldon, and Dharma & Greg. The episode opens with a teaser that covers his career, his time in Scientology, his struggle with alcoholism, and his very public fight with Charlie Sheen. It’s a solid tease. Then, after a quick branding slide, Mayim introduces Chuck again, and about 70% of it is information she already gave us. I ring a bell every time she repeats something so you can hear how often it happens.
In this episode, I explain:
- Why the double intro is so easy to create (you introduce your guest during the recording, then add a better tease in editing and forget the first one is still there)
- Why the second intro usually feels slightly self-serving, and how it delays your audience from the good stuff
- How to think about it like a Walmart greeter who won’t let you get to the eggs and milk
The fix: when you edit, listen to your first few minutes as a listener would. If you’ve already told them who the guest is and why they matter, cut the repeat and get to the interview.
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Maya Belik was Amy on The Big Bang Theory. She was TV's
Speaker:Blossom, and on her podcast, she just did one of the easiest
Speaker:mistakes to fix, but it's really annoying.
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Speaker:Yeah, this is an easy mistake to create, and what we're talking
Speaker:about is the double intro, where you start off the episode and
Speaker:you explain who the guest is. So here is Mayim explaining that
Speaker:Chuck Lore, the producer of The Big Bang Theory, is coming on to
Speaker:the show.
Speaker:He was the most successful television producer in the
Speaker:world, creating shows like The Big Bang Theory, Dharma and
Speaker:Greg, Young Sheldon, and Two and a Half Men.
Speaker:Holland Taylor's character on Two and a Half Men. She was my
Speaker:mother with money.
Speaker:That's the only thing you have to tell a therapist on a first
Speaker:meeting.
Speaker:Dharma and Greg, can I create a female lead who's loving and
Speaker:joyful. Would they be funny?
Speaker:What do you remember of the tiara episode?
Speaker:Sierra was a tour de force for you. I don't think I've ever
Speaker:laughed harder in my life.
Speaker:What you don't know about him is that he escaped a 1 billion year
Speaker:contract with the Church of Scientology.
Speaker:I was so desperate. I drank the Kool-Aid. Took me about 10 years
Speaker:to wake up.
Speaker:Notice I don't have to listen to this now. She just told me what
Speaker:happened.
Speaker:Battled alcoholism, fought his way out of poverty, was in a
Speaker:series of public battles with Hollywood's biggest stars.
Speaker:When Charlie left the show and went on that Tiger Blood tour, I
Speaker:had no skills or understanding how to deal with this. It was
Speaker:really painful.
Speaker:And again, I've just heard he just wrapped it up. Do I need to
Speaker:hear this now?
Speaker:We felt like you had two kids, and one was misbehaving, and we
Speaker:wanted to be the kid that wasn't misbehaving. We're going to take
Speaker:a sneak peek behind the curtain of fame, celebrity, addiction,
Speaker:and success with the man who has shaped the culture of modern
Speaker:America through 1000s of episodes of television, Chuck
Speaker:Laurie joins us on Miami Alex Breakdown.
Speaker:So that sneak peek behind the curtain of Chuck Laurie, but
Speaker:then she does a little. This is on YouTube, so there's a little
Speaker:branding slide, and then she comes back on, and here's what
Speaker:she says:
Speaker:What does it take to go from a childhood shaped by fear,
Speaker:addiction, poverty, and family turmoil to becoming the creative
Speaker:mastermind behind some of television's biggest and most
Speaker:popular sitcoms?
Speaker:And what I'm going to do is I'm going to ding a bell every time
Speaker:she tells us something that she's already told us, and
Speaker:realized she could be getting to the interview, but instead she's
Speaker:telling us this
Speaker:today. The creator of The Big Bang Theory, Chuck Laurie, is
Speaker:with us. He's going to talk about his memoir sitcom, and
Speaker:he's best known for creating not only The Big Bang Theory, but
Speaker:Two and a Half Men, Young Sheldon, Mom, and Stewart fails
Speaker:to save the universe. Chuck's going to talk about all of the
Speaker:pieces of his life that lined up from his failed music career to
Speaker:wandering into an animation studio in Sherman Oaks and
Speaker:getting a job writing afternoon cartoons to how he ended up
Speaker:creating the most successful comedy in television history,
Speaker:it's an unexpected journey, including a stint in Scientology
Speaker:and writing the theme song for the Teenage Mutant Ninja
Speaker:Turtles. It's such a pleasure to welcome Chuck here in person. I
Speaker:also had the pleasure of doing some events for this book, but
Speaker:this is a really, really special conversation. And yes, he's
Speaker:going to talk about the Big Bang Theory, we're going to talk
Speaker:about the tiara. We're going to talk about spanking. We're going
Speaker:to talk about casting. All those things. He's also going to talk
Speaker:about the very public struggle and battle that he had with
Speaker:Charlie Sheen on Two and a Half Men and how he got through it.
Speaker:It's a pleasure to welcome in person to the breakdown, Chuck
Speaker:Laurie. Welcome.
Speaker:And so, if you look at the extra information that she provided
Speaker:that he had a failed music career and he wrote the theme to
Speaker:the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are these the thing they're like
Speaker:oh I've got to listen to this now just get to the interview I
Speaker:also think it's slightly self serving because she's like we're
Speaker:gonna talk about the Tiara episode of The Big Bang Theory
Speaker:and the spanking. And granted, the spanking one was hilarious.
Speaker:And I mean, there, I love that show. But I was like, oh, we
Speaker:have to talk about the episodes that I was really prominent in.
Speaker:I'm like, really? Do we have to? So you know, that was kind.
Speaker:Interesting, but the one that I was just like, wow, she because
Speaker:that's a long intro. The second one, we're and it's just what
Speaker:70% something she already said, and this is super easy to do
Speaker:because when you do the interview, in some cases you
Speaker:will introduce the guest to their face. You know, hey,
Speaker:coming today, blah blah blah. We're here with so and so, and
Speaker:then later when you put the episode together, you create an
Speaker:intro, forgetting that you already did one. And most of the
Speaker:time, the one you do later is the one you keep because you now
Speaker:have done the interview, and you can do a much better tease
Speaker:because you know what you talked about, but what you're doing is
Speaker:you're stopping your audience from getting to the good stuff.
Speaker:Picture yourself as a Walmart greeter, and somebody walks into
Speaker:the store, and they're like, "You're like, hey, welcome to
Speaker:Walmart," and they like, "Thanks," and then you're like,
Speaker:no, no, I got more to say to you here. I I really hope you have a
Speaker:great time at Walmart. Like, I just want to go. I just need you
Speaker:know eggs and milk. Can I please? No, no, I've got to say,
Speaker:think of it that way. You're stopping them from getting to
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